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Second Crossing on the East Verde River: Day-Use Swimming and Picnicking Under the Pines North of Payson (No Camping)

Second Crossing is one of four day-use sites where Houston Mesa Road meets the East Verde River above Payson: First Crossing at 7 miles, Water Wheel at 7.5, Second at 8 and Third at 8.5. Google and several apps call it a campground. It is not. The Forest Service lists all four as day use only, with vault toilets, picnic tables, no water and an $8 Tonto pass. What you get is a shallow, cold river under tall pines at 5,100 feet, which on a May afternoon is exactly enough.

Illustration of Second Crossing, East Verde River, Arizona

The 30-second version

  • Second Crossing is a day-use picnic and swimming site on the East Verde River, 8 miles up Houston Mesa Road (FR 199) from SR 87 at the north end of Payson.
  • There is no camping. Despite the name on the owner's map and on several apps, the Forest Service lists First, Second and Third Crossings and Water Wheel as day use only; the nearest campground is Houston Mesa.
  • A Tonto Daily Pass is $8 per vehicle if bought in advance at a Forest Service office or vendor, or $12 from the on-site fee machine. Annual Tonto passes and the America the Beautiful pass are accepted.
  • Vault toilets serviced daily and picnic tables; no potable water, so bring your own.
  • About 110 minutes from Old Town via the Beeline to Payson and Houston Mesa Road. The road is paved to the crossings.
  • Ellison Creek, which joins the East Verde between Water Wheel and Second Crossing, is where ten people died in a flash flood in July 2017. Do not be in the river when it is raining upstream.

Where

Houston Mesa Road (FR 199), 8 miles north of SR 87, Payson

Directions

Drive from Old Town

About 1 hr 50 min

No traffic. Add time on Friday afternoons.

Elevation

5,100 ft

Old Town sits at about 1,250 ft.

Cost

$8 per vehicle per day with a Tonto Daily Pass bought in advance; $12 at the on-site fee machine; America the Beautiful passes accepted

Reservations

None; day use only

Season

Open year-round, day use only. The river runs best March through June; summer weekends are crowded and monsoon afternoons are dangerous; cold but quiet in winter

Hours

Day use only; no overnight camping

Managed by

Tonto National Forest

fs.usda.gov

Best for

A pine-shaded afternoon in a small river with kids, a cooler and a Tonto pass, 20 minutes past Payson

What’s here

  • Vault toilets
  • Picnic tables & ramadas
  • Swimming
  • Fishing
  • Real shade
  • Dogs welcome (leashed)

What is Second Crossing?

The East Verde River is the small, cold stream that drains the Rim above Payson and eventually finds the Verde near Childs. For about two miles north of town, Houston Mesa Road crosses and recrosses it, and the Forest Service has turned each ford into a day-use site: First Crossing at 7 miles from SR 87, Water Wheel at 7.5, Second Crossing at 8 and Third Crossing at 8.5. Each is a gravel pull-off, a vault toilet, a few picnic tables, and a river you can stand in up to your knees under ponderosas at 5,100 feet.

Second Crossing lacks Water Wheel’s falls and the crowd that comes with them, and it has a little more flat ground along the bank than Third. The water is clear and genuinely cold even in June, there is real shade, and on a weekday in May you may have it to yourself. Herons work the pools, the river holds small trout and smallmouth bass, and the sound of the water covers the road. It is a modest place, and that is its virtue; the big-ticket attractions of the Rim country are elsewhere, and this is where Payson families go when they want an afternoon in the water without a drive.

The one thing it is not is a campground. Several maps, including the one this guide started from, label it one. The Forest Service lists all four crossings as day use only, and a long-running Payson district order bans camping along several nearby stretches of the East Verde. If you want to sleep here, you sleep at Houston Mesa at the bottom of the road. What you get is a cheap, shaded, swimmable river two hours from Scottsdale. What you do not get is water, trash service, a lifeguard or a tent site.

How to do Second Crossing right

Pay before you arrive. A Tonto Daily Pass is required and must be displayed. It is $8 if you buy it in advance at a Forest Service office or vendor and $12 from the machine at the site. The nearest machines are at Houston Mesa Campground and Shoofly, and the Payson Ranger Station is closed weekends and sells nothing after 4 p.m. on weekdays, so the campground machine is the practical stop. The Tonto Discovery Pass (annual) and the America the Beautiful pass are accepted. For how the pass system works across the forest, see the Tonto National Forest entry.

Get there. Loop 101 north to SR 87, the Beeline, and follow it about 75 miles to Payson. Stay on 87 through town; a mile north of the SR 260 junction, turn right onto Houston Mesa Road (Forest Road 199). Houston Mesa Campground is immediately on your left. Continue north about 8 miles, past the Shoofly Village ruin turnoff and a couple of subdivisions, down into the river canyon. Second Crossing is the pull-off just past Water Wheel. The road is paved this far. Count on about 110 minutes from Old Town.

Park early or go midweek. Parking is a dirt lot for a couple of dozen cars. On a hot Saturday from Memorial Day on, Water Wheel’s lot fills by mid-morning and the overflow spills to Second and Third; arrive before ten or come on a weekday. Second and Third are quieter than Water Wheel in any season.

Pick the season by the water. Open all year. March through June has the best flow, when snowmelt off the Rim keeps the pools full and the river moving. By late June in a dry year it is barely moving. Winter is cold and quiet and perfectly good for a picnic. Summer weekends are crowded, and summer afternoons carry the one real hazard here.

Respect the flood risk. This is not boilerplate. On July 15, 2017, a storm over the Highline Fire burn scar sent a wall of water and ash down Ellison Creek, which enters the East Verde just upstream of this site, and killed ten members of one family at a swimming hole. No warning reached them. From July through mid-September, look at the radar before you walk down, and get out of the river at the first sign of rain upstream, whatever the sky looks like over your head. The flash flood entry explains why, and the monsoon field manual covers the season.

Bring water, take trash. Vault toilets are serviced daily. There is no drinking water anywhere on this road and no trash service. Carry a jug and a bag.

Dogs. On leash. They will want to be in the river, which is fine; pick up after them, because Payson sits downstream.

Skip it if you want a destination rather than a swimming hole. Water Wheel has the falls and the photographs. Tonto Natural Bridge, 20 minutes farther up the Beeline, is the Rim country’s real spectacle and has a parking lot that does not fill. Second Crossing is for the afternoon after you have done those.

Four fords and one creek

The East Verde is a river people lived beside long before anyone swam in it. The Dilzhe’e, the Tonto Apache, held the country from the Rim down into the Tonto Basin, and before them farmers of the pueblo tradition built Shoofly Village, a walled settlement of as many as 250 people, on the mesa 2.8 miles up this road, occupied from about A.D. 1000 to 1250 and abandoned, probably in drought, two centuries before the Apache arrived. The Army ended Apache life on the river in the 1870s: the Rio Verde Reserve near Camp Verde took them in 1871, was dissolved in 1875, and the people were marched to San Carlos. Some walked back a generation later to find Green Valley, founded in 1882 and renamed Payson for an Illinois congressman in 1884, standing on their land. It took until 1972 for the Tonto Apache to get a reservation: 85 acres south of town, the smallest in Arizona.

The crossings got their names from settlers. In 1897 Tom Greer brought his family up from Texas and dug in on the flat now called First Crossing, a cabin that was closer to a dugout, with the cook stove outside; the Forest Service made them bury it in the 1950s. The Greers built a big wooden water wheel to lift river water into an irrigation ditch, and though the wheel itself rotted away decades ago and local histories disagree about which Greer built it and when, it gave the site a half mile downstream its name. The land under all of it became public on October 3, 1905, when the Tonto Forest Reserve was proclaimed, a national forest two years later.

Recreation arrived with pavement. The Beeline Highway reached Payson in 1958 and turned a full-day drive into two hours; within a generation the East Verde’s fords were a Valley habit, and the Forest Service built the toilets and gravel lots that the Tonto Pass, introduced in 1999, now pays for. Houston Mesa Road was paved to the river. The water itself changed too: SRP pumps about 11,000 acre-feet a year from the Blue Ridge reservoir on the Rim, now called C.C. Cragin, through a pipeline that releases into the East Verde at Washington Park, with 3,000 acre-feet of it reserved for Payson. In a dry June, part of what you are standing in came out of a pipe.

Then came 2017. The Highline Fire burned 7,198 acres below the Rim from June 10 to July 20, stripping the slopes above Ellison Creek. On the afternoon of July 15, a storm over the burn scar put down heavy rain miles upstream, and at about 3:30 a surge of water, ash and logs several feet high came down Ellison Creek through a swimming hole where the sky was clear. Ten members of one extended family died. Ellison Creek enters the East Verde between Water Wheel and Second Crossing; the water that killed them passed through this site minutes later. It was the deadliest flash flood in Arizona in decades, and it is why every Forest Service sign on this road now says what it says.

The current Payson Ranger District order, running from 2024 to 2029, bans camping along the East Verde corridor here, which is why the campground label on so many maps is wrong. The Forest Service’s own listing is plain: four day-use sites, vault toilets, no water, no camping.

Why it matters

Second Crossing is the Rim country at its most ordinary, and ordinary is the point: a cold creek, a few tables, a two-dollar difference in where you buy the pass. It also explains three things about northern Arizona in one place. The Tonto Apache were removed from this river and given back 85 acres a century later. The water in the river is partly engineered, piped from a reservoir a mountain away. And a sunny day here can kill you, because the creek that feeds this stretch drains a burn scar, and the storm that fills it may be out of sight. For a Scottsdale visitor the verdict is simple: go in May, pay the $8 in Payson, pick Second or Third over Water Wheel, and leave the river the moment it rains anywhere above you.

Second Crossing, East Verde River by the numbers

$8 to $12

Day-use fee

5,100 ft

Elevation

Not allowed

Camping

~110 min

Drive from Old Town

How it got here: a timeline

  1. prehistory

    The East Verde below the Rim is Dilzhe'e (Tonto) Apache country, and before them pueblo farmers built Shoofly Village, a walled settlement of as many as 250 people occupied from about A.D. 1000 to 1250, on the mesa 2.8 miles up what is now Houston Mesa Road.

  2. 1871–1875

    The Army gathers the Tonto Apache and Yavapai onto the Rio Verde Reserve near Camp Verde in 1871, dissolves it in 1875 and marches them to San Carlos; some families walk back to the Payson country a generation later to find settlers on their land.

  3. 1882–1884

    Ranchers and miners found Green Valley, also called Union Park, in 1882; a post office arrives on March 3, 1884 with help from Illinois congressman Levi Joseph Payson, and the town takes his name.

  4. 1897

    Tom Greer brings his family from Texas and settles on the East Verde at the flat now called First Crossing; the Greers build a wooden water wheel to lift river water into their irrigation ditch, and though the wheel is long gone, local accounts differ on which Greer built it and when, it gives the Water Wheel site its name.

  5. 1905–1907

    The Tonto Forest Reserve is proclaimed on October 3, 1905 and becomes the Tonto National Forest on March 4, 1907; the river crossings on Houston Mesa Road are now public land under Forest Service rules.

  6. 1958

    The paved Beeline Highway reaches Payson, turning an all-day drive from Phoenix into two hours and putting the East Verde swimming holes inside the Valley's weekend range.

  7. 1972

    The Tonto Apache Reservation is created south of Payson inside the national forest: 85 acres, the smallest reservation land base in Arizona, for a tribe whose country once ran from the East Verde to the Tonto Basin.

  8. July 15, 2017

    Weeks after the Highline Fire burns 7,198 acres below the Rim, a storm over the burn scar sends a wall of water and ash down Ellison Creek into the East Verde just above this site and kills ten members of one family at a swimming hole where it is not raining.

  9. today

    Four fee day-use sites with vault toilets and no camping, a Payson district order that bans camping along the corridor through 2029, and a river kept alive in dry years by SRP pipeline water released into its headwaters at Washington Park.

Questions people actually ask

Can you camp at Second Crossing?

No. The Forest Service lists Second Crossing, along with First and Third Crossing and Water Wheel, as day use only. The nearest developed campground is Houston Mesa, back at the start of Houston Mesa Road, and dispersed camping in this corridor is restricted; check the Payson Ranger District's current orders.

How much does it cost?

A Tonto Daily Pass is $8 per vehicle when bought in advance at a Forest Service office or retail vendor, or $12 from the fee machine at the site. The Tonto Discovery Pass and America the Beautiful pass are accepted. A vehicle without a pass displayed will be cited.

Is there drinking water?

No. Vault toilets and picnic tables are the only facilities. Bring all the water you need and do not drink from the river untreated.

Is the East Verde safe to swim in?

On an ordinary dry day it is a shallow, cold river with a few deeper pools and is fine for wading. During monsoon season, July through mid-September, it can flash flood from storms you cannot see. The 2017 flood that killed ten people came down Ellison Creek, a side canyon just upstream of here, in about ten minutes.

Are dogs allowed?

Yes, on leash, and they will want to be in the water. Pick up after them; this is a small river that a lot of people and the town of Payson sit downstream of.

What is the difference between First, Second and Third Crossing and Water Wheel?

They are four pull-offs on the same two miles of road, each where Houston Mesa Road fords the East Verde. Water Wheel, at 7.5 miles, has the falls on Ellison Creek and the crowd. First Crossing, at 7 miles, has the most history and the Houston Mesa trailhead. Second, at 8 miles, has the most flat bank for a picnic, and Third, at 8.5, is the quietest. All four take the same pass and have the same vault toilets and no water.

Vernacular & LexiconThe Tonto (Tonto National Forest)The BeelineFlash floodThe Verde RiverAcre-footSRP vs. APSMonsoonYavapai

Sources

Facts checked: October 12, 2026 • Curated by the Scottsdale.tips editors • Fees, seasons, road conditions and fire restrictions change — confirm with Tonto National Forest before you build a day around them.