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Comanche Point: The Grand Canyon's Loneliest South Rim Viewpoint, a 12-Mile Off-Trail Day From Desert View

Comanche Point is a 7,073-foot promontory on the eastern South Rim, east of Desert View, looking straight down on the Colorado River where it bends around the Unkar Delta and the Palisades of the Desert. No trail goes there. The usual route walks a rough dirt road from Desert View toward Cedar Mountain, follows a long-closed jeep track toward Cape Solitude, and finishes cross-country up a steep slope, about 12 to 13 miles round trip. There is no water, no sign and no permit needed for a day; it is the kind of place the park leaves to people who can navigate.

Illustration of Comanche Point, Arizona

The 30-second version

  • Comanche Point rises to 7,073 feet on the rim east of Desert View, with a view over roughly nine miles of the Colorado River from Unkar Creek to Carbon Creek, the Palisades of the Desert, the Painted Desert and the Little Colorado gorge.
  • There is no maintained trail. Trip reports put the round trip from Desert View at about 12 to 13 miles via Cedar Mountain Road and the closed Cape Solitude jeep track, with a cross-country finish that climbs about 600 feet from a small valley to the point.
  • No permit is needed for a day hike. Camping anywhere on the rim outside Desert View Campground needs a backcountry permit from recreation.gov; this is the Cape Solitude use area, at-large camping, $10 per permit plus $4 per person per night.
  • Park at Desert View and walk. The dirt road past the employee housing is rutted and rocky, the start may be closed to visitor vehicles, and the jeep track beyond is signed closed to all vehicles including bicycles.
  • No water anywhere on the route, no shade on the point, snow in winter and lightning in monsoon; carry a map and GPS and a liter per two hours.
  • About 215 minutes from Old Town to Desert View via I-17, US 89 and SR 64 from Cameron, plus the $35 entrance fee.

Where

Start on foot from the Desert View parking area at the east end of Desert View Drive (SR 64); the route follows Cedar Mountain Road and the closed Cape Solitude jeep track

Directions

Drive from Old Town

About 3 hr 35 min

No traffic. Add time on Friday afternoons.

Elevation

7,073 ft

Old Town sits at about 1,250 ft.

Cost

Free to hike; $35 per-vehicle park entrance fee; overnight camping requires a backcountry permit ($10 plus $4 per person per night above the rim)

Reservations

None for a day hike; backcountry permits through the recreation.gov lottery for an overnight in the Cape Solitude use area

Season

April through June and September through November; snow covers the road and the plateau in winter, and summer brings heat on the open rim and daily lightning in monsoon

Hours

The park's east entrance at Desert View is open 24 hours

Managed by

National Park Service, Grand Canyon National Park

nps.gov

Best for

Experienced hikers who want a Grand Canyon rim view with nobody else on it and do not need a trail to get there

What’s here

  • Hiking trails

What is Comanche Point?

East of Desert View the South Rim stops being a park and goes back to being a plateau. The pavement ends, the viewpoints end, and the rim swings north along the Palisades of the Desert toward the Little Colorado with no trail on it at all. Comanche Point, at 7,073 feet, is the one promontory on that stretch a strong day hiker can reach: a flat-topped point standing about 200 feet above the surrounding rim, with the Colorado River a mile below bending around the Unkar Delta and roughly nine miles of it in view from Unkar Creek to Carbon Creek. Across the water stand Vishnu, Jupiter and Apollo temples and Chuar Butte; east lie the Painted Desert and the gorge of the Little Colorado. There is a USGS marker at the edge and, most days, nobody.

Getting there is the hike. From Desert View, Cedar Mountain Road descends past the employee housing as a rutted, rocky two-track toward the cinder cone of Cedar Mountain. A long-abandoned jeep road, signed closed to all vehicles and bicycles, branches north toward Cape Solitude, washed out, blocked by fallen trees and growing over. After a few miles you leave it, drop into a small valley and climb about 600 feet cross-country to the point. Trip reports put the round trip from Desert View at 12 to 13 miles. The park neither signs nor maintains any of it.

What you get is the Grand Canyon as it was before the railings: a day alone on the rim above the river’s great eastern bend, with the Watchtower a toy on the skyline behind you. What you do not get is a trail, water, shade, a sign, cell signal or anyone to notice if you take the wrong drainage on the way back.

How to hike it right

Permits and fees. None for a day hike beyond the $35 entrance fee. Any night on the rim outside Desert View Campground requires a backcountry permit from recreation.gov for the Cape Solitude use area, where camping is at-large; $10 per permit plus $4 per person per night above the rim.

Get there. I-17 north to Flagstaff, US 89 north to Cameron, then SR 64 west 25 miles to the park’s east entrance at Desert View: about 215 minutes from Old Town, plus the entrance line. Park in the main Desert View lot. The dirt road begins beyond the residential area to the south, and the old parking spot near the water-treatment turnoff may be closed to visitors; walk from the main lot and you add half a mile each way and remove the question. Desert View has restrooms, a market, gas and the Watchtower, and nothing you pass after that has anything.

Pick the season. Late April, May, October and early November. The plateau holds snow from December into March, and the road is mud or drifts. July and August afternoons bring lightning to an exposed rim with no cover, and the point is the highest thing for miles. Start no later than seven in any month and give yourself seven to nine hours.

Navigate, do not follow. This is off-trail travel on a plateau where every pinyon looks like the last one. Load the route on a GPS before you lose signal at Cameron, carry a paper map and the ability to use both, and mark where you leave the jeep road; the drainages on the return look alike. The final mile crosses small cliff bands that are a scramble, not a climb, but loose.

Water. There is none from Desert View to the point and back. Carry three liters or more per person, a liter per two hours, and expect to finish it. Set a turnaround time and keep it.

The rim. No railings, no people, no signal. The last climb crosses loose cliff bands; stay back from the edge in wind, and do not let the dog, if you brought one against advice, run the rim.

Make a trip of it. Camp at Desert View or Mather, do Comanche on the full day, and spend the half day on the Watchtower and the Tusayan ruin. If you want the river itself, Lees Ferry is two hours around by Cameron.

Skip it if a long, dry, unsigned day for a view that the Watchtower approximates for free does not appeal. For a trail with the same canyon and a railing at the top, walk down the Bright Angel for an hour instead. If the trade does appeal, there is no better quiet on the South Rim.

A point named by a travel writer for a people who never saw it

The delta a mile below Comanche Point was a village. Ancestral Puebloan farmers worked the Unkar Delta from about 850 to 1200, terracing the river’s biggest bend and leaving the densest cluster of ruins in the inner canyon; from the point you look straight down on their fields. The canyon belongs to the histories of the Hopi, Navajo, Havasupai, Hualapai, Zuni and Paiute, and the plateau you walk across to reach the point ends, a few miles east, at the boundary of the Navajo Nation, which runs along the rim above the Little Colorado.

None of those peoples named it. In 1900 the travel writer George Wharton James, following the fashion of the day, gave the promontories of the South Rim the names of Native nations whatever their connection to the place, and this one became Comanche Point, for a people of the southern plains who never saw the canyon. The U.S. Board on Geographic Names made it official in 1906. One guidebook says James first called it Bissel Point for a railroad man and the name was changed in 1932; we found no second source for that and leave it as a footnote.

The park grew around it. Theodore Roosevelt proclaimed Grand Canyon National Monument on January 11, 1908, and Congress made it a national park on February 26, 1919, with the eastern rim inside the line but nothing built on it. The building came in 1932, when Mary Colter, the Fred Harvey Company’s architect, finished the Desert View Watchtower at the end of the rim road: 70 feet of rough stone over a steel frame, with murals inside by the Hopi painter Fred Kabotie. The tower was the last of her Grand Canyon concession buildings and was named a National Historic Landmark in 1987. Every walk to Comanche Point starts in its parking lot, and from the point it is the only man-made thing in view.

The jeep road is the odd chapter. At some point in the middle of the century a track was pushed north from Cedar Mountain across the plateau to Cape Solitude, the point above the Little Colorado confluence, about 15 miles from Desert View, and for a generation anyone with a four-wheel drive could reach the loneliest viewpoint in the park; we could not find who built it or when. The park closed it to vehicles, posted the sign that still stands, and let it go: the washouts, fallen trees and brush you fight through are what a road becomes when nobody grades it for decades. The Grand Canyon National Park Enlargement Act of January 3, 1975 added Marble Canyon and the western monument to the park and changed nothing here. The eastern rim remained what it had been since 1919, a plateau with no trail that the park leaves, by policy, to people who can navigate.

What is coming is nothing, which is the point. The park has no plans for a trail, a sign or a parking area east of Desert View, and the Navajo Nation’s land begins a few miles on. Comanche will stay an unmaintained route for as long as the park keeps its eastern rim undeveloped, and the rescues that occasionally come out of the Cape Solitude country are the reason it keeps the warnings up.

Why it matters

Comanche Point is what the whole South Rim was before the Fred Harvey Company and the Park Service made it a destination: a plateau, a cliff, the river a mile down, and no one to tell you where to stand. It also carries the canyon’s naming problem in miniature, a Plains nation’s name on a rock above Puebloan fields at the edge of Navajo land, which is worth knowing as you look down at the delta. For a Scottsdale hiker the verdict is strict. If you can navigate off trail, carry three liters and keep a turnaround time, this is the quietest great view in the park and worth a 3.5-hour drive and a night at Desert View. If any of that is a question, the Watchtower is 100 yards from the car and the view is nearly the same.

Comanche Point by the numbers

~12–13 mi

Round trip

7,073 ft

Point elevation

None

Day-hike permit

~215 min

Drive from Old Town

How it got here: a timeline

  1. prehistory

    Ancestral Puebloan farmers work the Unkar Delta a mile below the point from about 850 to 1200, leaving the largest cluster of ruins in the inner canyon; the Hopi, Navajo, Havasupai, Hualapai, Zuni and Paiute all hold the canyon in their histories, and the Navajo Nation's western boundary runs along the rim just east of here.

  2. 1900

    The writer George Wharton James names the point for the Comanche, following the fashion of naming South Rim promontories for Native nations with no connection to the canyon; the U.S. Board on Geographic Names adopts the name in 1906.

  3. 1908–1919

    Theodore Roosevelt proclaims Grand Canyon National Monument on January 11, 1908; Congress makes it a national park on February 26, 1919, with the eastern rim inside the line.

  4. 1932

    Mary Colter's Desert View Watchtower, 70 feet of stone over a steel frame with Fred Kabotie's Hopi murals inside, opens for the Fred Harvey Company at the end of the rim road; it becomes the start of every walk to Comanche.

  5. 1950s–1970s

    A jeep road runs north from Cedar Mountain to Cape Solitude above the Little Colorado confluence, 15 miles from Desert View, open to anyone with a 4x4; the park later closes it to all vehicles, and it begins the slow return to a footpath. We could not pin the decade it was built or closed.

  6. 1975

    The Grand Canyon National Park Enlargement Act of January 3 adds Marble Canyon and the western monument to the park; the eastern rim stays as it was, a plateau with no trails, which the park leaves to people who can navigate.

  7. today

    A 7,073-foot point with a USGS marker, no sign, no trail and nine miles of river below it, reached by 12 to 13 miles of road, closed track and cross-country from the Watchtower lot.

Questions people actually ask

Is there a trail to Comanche Point?

No. The route uses Cedar Mountain Road, a rough dirt road that leaves Desert View past the employee housing, then a long-abandoned jeep track toward Cape Solitude that is signed closed to vehicles and bicycles, and ends with about a mile of cross-country travel up a small valley and a steep 600-foot slope. It is unsigned and rarely traveled; the park does not promote or maintain it.

Do I need a permit?

Not to hike it in a day. Spending the night anywhere on the rim outside Desert View Campground requires a backcountry permit from Grand Canyon National Park through recreation.gov, $10 plus $4 per person per night above the rim; the area is the Cape Solitude use area, where camping is at-large. You still pay the $35 park entrance fee either way.

Can I drive Cedar Mountain Road?

Do not plan on it. The road is steep and very rocky after the first stretch, and the spot where hikers used to park near the water treatment turnoff may be off limits to visitors. Park in the Desert View lot and walk; it adds about half a mile each way and avoids the argument.

How hard is it?

Long and navigationally demanding rather than steep. Figure 12 to 13 miles round trip with the published elevation figures ranging from about 700 feet of net change to well over a thousand cumulative, a full day at altitude above 7,000 feet with no water and no shade on the point. It is for experienced hikers comfortable off trail.

What is the view like?

The river, directly below and a mile down, bending around the Unkar Delta and running roughly nine miles from Unkar Creek to Carbon Creek between the Palisades of the Desert and the North Rim's temples: Vishnu, Jupiter, Apollo, Chuar Butte. East are the Painted Desert and the gorge of the Little Colorado. A USGS marker sits at the edge.

Why is it called Comanche Point when the Comanche never lived here?

Because a travel writer named it. George Wharton James gave the point its name in 1900, following the turn-of-the-century habit of naming South Rim promontories for Native nations whatever their connection to the canyon, and the U.S. Board on Geographic Names made it official in 1906. The people who actually farmed the delta below it were Ancestral Puebloans, and the rim east of here belongs to the Navajo Nation.

Vernacular & LexiconTurnaround time (and the 10 a.m. rule)Scramble (and the class ratings)Monsoon

Sources

Facts checked: October 12, 2026 • Curated by the Scottsdale.tips editors • Fees, seasons, road conditions and fire restrictions change — confirm with National Park Service, Grand Canyon National Park before you build a day around them.